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down when you compare it to 30 or 40 years ago. the fox report's jonathan hunt is here with more on that. we hear about the threats all the time. but the facts show that we are more safe than before. explain that. >> yeah. the worst attack we've gone through since 9-11 was actually the fort hood shooting in 2009, 13 people killed there. boston stands out because it is, in fact, among the highest casualties with three dead and 176 wounded in that attack. other than that, 9-11, of course, then you have the 1993 world trade center attack, the 1995 oklahoma city bombing. but other than that, as i said, relatively safe. much better than the 1970s, for instance, when there were far more global terrorist attacks. experts say part of the reason is because law enforcement, very simply in cities like new york city, have become much better since 9-11 at stopping these things. listen. >> since 9-11, new york has been the target of 17 plots and only one of them you could say really succeeded and the suspect made it to times square. but the others didn't work because of a lot of good intellige
're welcome. jenna: jonathan cha unc er is a form terrorist analyst at the treasury department. what catches your attention when you see what the last 24 hours has brought us? >> obviously right now what is grabbing my attention is that we don't seem to have any leads at all. this reminds me a great deal of the atlanta bombing in 1996 that went unsolved for seven years. what we look for right now is perhaps a foreign group to claim responsibility, which we have not seen. in fact the pakistani taliban went out of its way today to disavow the attacks, this is a group that was responsible for that 2010 times square attempted attack and so they've disavowed it. no one else has come forward on this. and so, you know, we begin to question about whether this is a domestic attack. it's obviously incredibly too soon to tell. >> you studied arabic extensively. you jump on some of these websites to check out the quote unquote public chatter that is happening before or after an event like this. what have you seen, read, heard? >> haven't seen anything much at all. there was a group in jordan celebrating
. heather: former fbi special counterterrorism agent in new york, jonathan gilliam joins us to talk more about this you're a lead investigator in the case. someone knows who did this, begging people and the public come forward with any tips they may deem important for them to see, pictures, information, anything for the public's help. what does that tell but the state of their investigation? >> you can never tell where the bureau or the task force is in their investigation. they're the best at what they do. from this point forward there is nobody better than what they do as far as digging through this massive puzzle of, of investigative leads. one thing that you have to look at here is that there's two investigations going on. there's one investigation that's going on from the point of the explosion for ward. and there's also an investigation going on looking how this actually happened. the second investigation of how this actually happened ties in with who actually did it and that's where they're asking the public for their assistance. most people don't realize they can be an integral p
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